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A&H has teamed up with US software designer, Mixed In Key, to offer new software which enables digital DJ’s to analyse and harmonise tracks. ‘Xone Mixed in Key’ is Windows and MAC OS X software, which analyses .MP3 and .WAV files, identifies the key of a track, and highlights which other tracks are harmonically compatible. It eliminates the possibility of key clashes whilst performing live, and allows the DJ to analyse their entire music collection, discovering compatible songs. Check it out Here!
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THANKS A LOT !!!
EDIT: I thought it was free :-(
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Please give us a demo version.
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Camelot notation is a joke for people who don't know what music is.
Mixed In Key makes me sick and it taints A&H's reputation to be associated
with it.
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moostapha wrote:
Camelot notation is a joke for people who don't
know what music is.
Mixed In Key makes me sick and it taints A&H's reputation to be
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What exactly do you mean ?
I've been using MIK for 2 weeks now, and i must say it really upped my
mixing technique !
It's a really good program, with very accurate key detection algorythm.
Also, the camelot notation is very easy to understand, even with no
musical background.
The program itself is still very young, but the developer is nice and will
listen to any feature requests !
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kuanding
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if it can intergrate with itune, scratch live, tracktor...libery and add tab in the databases. it would be wonderful
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Lilo
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Hello! I agree... It's really a good program and i already purchase it.
Simply for have more time for composing. This is a precious aid to make
sets.
Thanks.
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Hugh like
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With all these fuzzy little gadgets and stuff ... where is the fun of DJ-
ing yourself going ? Is it really all about perfect beatmatching and
perfectly harmonized melodies that never sound out of tune ? Next
step is a software that picks tracks itself. Tracks that match "best"
with the previous one, and you'd have to nothing but switch on the
machine. And then to know that most DJ's don't even play a music
instrument (and no, I don't mean turntables) or know the difference
between F-sharp or E-flat, let alone hear it when something is out of
tune. I mean, you'd already have to set the EQ's perfectly as well,
because if not, the sound is not how it should be anyway. Then
when you actually play in a club or a bar, the system is often too
poor to reproduce those tiny detailed sounds anyway. People have
had a few drinks and are shouting in each others ear and try to
hear each other.
So there you are with a set that was (in the best case) perfectly
corrected and reproduced by the laptop, and sounded like any
computer-made compilation you can find in a gasstation.
Boring as hell, for the audience as well as for Mister DJ.
Of the many times I've heard DJ's play with softwares, sure, there
were some amazing sets and people were going crazy. But when are
the moments the whole place is really about to explode ?
Exactly, when the software f**ks up and throws the whole track in
weird dimension nobody had ever expected. Good times !
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Lilo
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Hello Hugh.
I read your opinion with much attention and you are right on many
points. Really.
A bar like a club will never be an ideal place to make the assembly hears
all the subtlilities of a set created carefully and with precision.
However, I believe with naivety that in all this crowd, some people listen
with attention at what is played and it is for them that my nights are
shorts, my eyes have black rings and my banking account is at zero…
Concerning the use of sofwares, I agree as that “partialy breaks” the
magic of a vinyl set and that” sounds " less spontaneous…
Without speaking precisely about “Mixed in Key”… I use Live with
keyboards on scene to precisely fill this lack of spontaneousness. Not
only with master keyboards but also with powerful synthetizers and a
external Fx processors of quality.
The softwares became essential. It is a fact which can be discussed but
the richness and the diversity which they bring in a set are really
spectacular.
The deejays are in full evolution. The played music is often composed,
there is a true interaction which is created and the pleasure of playing is
real.
It is a healthy and progressist evolution .
With regard to the use of “mixed in key”, it is a sofware which saves an
invaluable time to precisely support the construction of complex sets. I
prefer his use without hypocrisy by far to criticize his programming.
When to fear another dimension, for me it is already done… Ableton Live
as Mixed in key go in this way and it is really a puff of fresh air.
Thank you for your opinion, it is nice. I wish you one year filled of good
music and so long!
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Hello Lilo,
I agree, the technical evolutions it all has made these last few years
are spectacular and to be applauded. It's a "natural" progress almost
and one I really appreciate. I'm not against any of it, on the
contrary. And you're absolutely right, playing for people who come
to hear something good without really knowing / caring what it is, is
great. Playing for people who listen to this music through and
through possibly even nicer. There's no better feeling than playing
for a dancing and cheering crowd.
But despite all these things happening, I can't help sometimes
feeling almost sad about this:
Debuting dj's are talking about the technical side of dj-ing way too
often. They think they cannot do without Ableton or an EFX-box or
Serato or whatever. In my opinion they sometimes loose sight of
what's really the heart of it all: the MUSIC itself.
Time should be taken to first listen to the new records or mp3's.
Listen before immediately cutting them up in pieces and loops.
I think much can be learned from a single track that's well produced
and (de)constructed. Listen to old(er) material and find where
today's loops come from, and why. It's not always necessary to play
around with the EQ's all the time, because a good track will provide
the right vibe at the right moment. When sometimes hearing
someone almost destroying a track by running it through some
laptop or killing it with wrong EQ-ing just for the sake of it ... well,
it's just not right.
Nevertheless, viva la (r)evolucěon !
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Lilo
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I am sorry to have delayed answering you. Apologies...
I understand your sadness.
Novice Djays is full of ardour and wants to make listen the progress made
as the acquired new knowledges.
Need of gratitude or recognition simply, I presume...
I am comprehensive on their lack of musical culture.
It is a long, difficult and requiring learning. You are right... You are
right... Sometimes, it is bad but also sometimes, the sets are made well
and very dynamics!!
On the other hand, how blame them for all the troubles... The producers
make nothing which can raise the musical level and clubs want
equalizers " tuning " to satisfy a clientele satisfied with musics cheap FM.
Gasstation you said???... Totally agree....
People listen to the music by going to work in the morning in their car...
A completely deformed ear…
Paradoxically, the level increased much for the sets played into live…On
the other hand, the level of the music diffused on the stations FM is
disturbing and compressed…
Nothing which encourages people has to diversify their musical culture
and to have other reference marks. are there...
When with the production, what pays more, they are compilations. The
titles produced in license are already much less profitable…
Here in a few words what I think of this business…sadness yes…regrets a
little…That the young musicians or less young people can open out,
deejays also…
Here…Good evening and good music!!!
Ps..Do you speak french???
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Every generation thinks it's better than the next.
we mix with cd's and mp3's now.
the Dj's before used vinyl only ,how do you think they feel about you.
Because every body wants to be a dj nowadays, and can, with out even
going to the record store.I't doesn't matter if you have the best gear because
I've heard Djs with the lattest gear and still sucked . A good dj just
wants to rock the party and if he happends to have a Xone 3d with mixed in
key being recorded strait to a dvd and played on a blue-ray PS3.....
then god bless him. peace
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Why I didn't get this for free when I bought my 4d ?
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This software and the concept is great I've been using it for a few years and is definately worth looking into unless you have perfect/relative pitch which hardly anyone does unless your a trained musician.
You can also use the software to edit the mp3 tag on your files and add the key, then this comes up in your file browser within Traktor, brilliant!
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For You guys who love Harmonic....
http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2008/07/01/online-music-store -for-djs/
best,
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hello,
i just bought mixed in key, do you know if there is a way to save camelot key in Tempo field or any other custom 1 field for instance. the default configuration that are proposed by this software is not convenient at all to sort mp3 by camelot key (artist name change before or after, in comments field, etc...)
thanks a lot for your input & feedback
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DJtechtools conducted an independent comparison of key detection software: Key Analysis Software Smackdown.
The results are awful for all 4 softwares.
The bottom line is that Mixed in Key have the same analyze results as Rapid Evolution (which costs 0 EUR FREE)!!!!
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As someone who started on two technics and a pioneer mixer, i have an appreciation for how hard OG beatmatching can be. I was never ever able to *quite* beatmatch as quickly or as accurately as the best guys, but I always knew that my taste in music was solid and that I understood song structure as deeply as anyone, meaning I could mix pretty well. I think we get too caught up with playing for other DJ's and not the crowd. I have had people come up to me right after a minor trainwreck in my early days and tell me "you're killing it bro!" There are two ways to look at that: 1) this guy is an idiot and clearly doesn't understand the art of DJing, or 2) this is the guy we should all be listening to because he was listening to music and having a good time and that is what DJs are there to provide, music and good times.
For me, the digital DJ revolution has evened the playing field so that it really IS ALL ABOUT music selection. The technical barriers are gone. You still have to be able to mix, time your drops correctly, bring tracks in at the right time, work your EQs, etc etc. That will never go away no matter what software advances there are because that's all at the discretion of the human. Hell, even Ritchie Hawtin lets Traktor do the syncing for him and no one would dispute his talent or contributions to the scene.
Bottom line, mixed in key, auto beatmatching, I don't really care as long as you can rock a crowd. Obviously I want someone to carefully choose each tune and program them in a way that maximizes the impact of each, but beyond that, as Tiefshwarz said in this interview with DJ Tech Tools, just use whatever you're comfortable with and let the crowd decide the rest.
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Aye to that CK.
And surely the less time spent getting a record from the bag, putting it on the platter and getting the pitch right the MORE time can be spent going "Nope- there's a better tune than that I can find".
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AND you don't have to use MIK for every mix. If you are using 2 tunes where the major crossover is percussive, no need. And unless there is lots of extand melody in both, it's 50/50 whether you need to be harmonic.
But if you are playing some "nice" tunes and you want to get "filthy", then use a 3-down "Drop mix", using MIK and the crowd goes all dirty. Or if things are too straight, go 7 down and that "wrong" tune you have sounds very wrong indeed.
It's a tool at the end of the day and it's only as good as the user. It doesn't do anything FOR you it just informs.
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